{"id":755,"date":"2005-08-02T00:27:00","date_gmt":"2005-08-01T19:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/?p=755"},"modified":"2005-08-02T00:27:00","modified_gmt":"2005-08-01T19:27:00","slug":"religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/?p=755","title":{"rendered":"Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My brother-in-law forwarded me this:<\/p>\n<p><!--more His note--><br \/>\n<code>Paul Harvey and Prayer<\/p>\n<p>Paul Harvey says:<\/p>\n<p>I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue<br \/>\nsomebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I<br \/>\ndon't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a<br \/>\nlawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory<br \/>\nof evolution.<\/p>\n<p>Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be<br \/>\nendangered because someone says a 30-second prayer<br \/>\nbefore a football game.<\/p>\n<p>So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there<br \/>\nreading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a<br \/>\nGod they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the<br \/>\nplayers on the field and the fans going home from the game.<\/p>\n<p>\"But it's a Christian prayer,\" some will argue.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country<br \/>\nfounded on Christian principles. According to our very<br \/>\nown phone book, Christian churches out number all others<br \/>\nbetter than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody<br \/>\nchanting Hare Krishna?<\/p>\n<p>If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,<br \/>\nI would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. <\/p>\n<p>If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad,<br \/>\nI would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. <\/p>\n<p>If I went to a ping pong match in China,<br \/>\nI would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. <\/p>\n<p>And I wouldn't be offended.<br \/>\nIt wouldn't bother me one bit.<br \/>\nWhen in Rome ..<\/p>\n<p>\"But what about the atheists?\" is another argument.<\/p>\n<p>What about them?<br \/>\nNobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to<br \/>\npass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If<br \/>\nthat's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear<br \/>\nplugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.<br \/>\nCall your lawyer!<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or<br \/>\ntwo will tell thousands what they can and cannot do.<br \/>\nI don't think a short prayer at a football game is<br \/>\ngoing to shake the world's foundations.<\/p>\n<p>Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other<br \/>\ncheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our<br \/>\nparents and grandparents taught us to pray before<br \/>\neating; to pray before we go to sleep.<\/p>\n<p>Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a<br \/>\nhandful of people and their lawyers are telling us<br \/>\nto cease praying <\/p>\n<p>God, help us.<br \/>\nAnd if that last sentence offends you,<br \/>\nwell ... just sue me. <\/p>\n<p>The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we<br \/>\nlet that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard<br \/>\n. know that the vast majority don't care what they want. It<br \/>\nis time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't<br \/>\nhave to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance;<br \/>\nyou don't have to believe in God or attend services that<br \/>\nhonor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your<br \/>\nright. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our<br \/>\nrights away.  We are fighting back ...<br \/>\nand we WILL WIN! <\/p>\n<p>God bless us one and all .... especially those who denounce<br \/>\nHim. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still<br \/>\nthe greatest nation of all.<\/p>\n<p>God bless our service men who are fighting to protect<br \/>\nour right to pray and worship God. <\/p>\n<p>May 2005 be the year the silent majority is heard<br \/>\nand we put God back as the foundation of our<br \/>\nfamilies and institutions.<\/p>\n<p>Keep looking up. <\/p>\n<p>If you agree with this, please pass it on.<br \/>\nIf not . delete it.<br \/>\n<\/code><\/p>\n<p>To which I responded, thus:<\/p>\n<p><code>When we lived in Ann Arbor, there were protesters at the KKK rallies.  Some of them carried signs that read \"No Free Speech for Fascists.\"  Right now, you're sounding a little bit like them (the protesters, not the Klan).  The problem is that, in arguing that some particular viewpoint should be silenced, you become the fascist.  This is true even if the viewpoint in question is demonstrably evil.  <\/p>\n<p>Here's the core of it:  The US is not, by law, a Christian country.  Says so right in the constitution.  I don't care about the life philosophy of the founders, or what somebody's momma or daddy taught them, or any of that crap.  The founders had lots of personal issues that they overcame to produce that document.  Lots of people still get taught to hate the  blacks and the gays by momma and daddy.<\/p>\n<p>I care about what the founders wrote down, and how we've chosen to modify it since them.  That's the law we have to deal with, and it defines the country we live in.<\/p>\n<p>Citizens are not required to practice any particular religion, and the government isn't allowed to sponsor a state religion.  This is true even if one religion is 200 times more popular than another.  In fact, it is *especially* true in that case. <\/p>\n<p>Therefore:<br \/>\n---------------<br \/>\n* State sponsored schools shouldn't be in the business of teaching religion.  Certainly, they should allow the practice of religion, provided that it doesn't interfere with the teaching.  The teacher shouldn't lead prayer of any sort.  Trying to play the fair share, everyone is included game is crap.  Just leave it out. <\/p>\n<p>* Yes, this includes a prayer at the start of the football game.  Just leave it out. <\/p>\n<p>* Double that for the science curriculum.  Science is not philosophy.  I think it's close to treason to pollute our science teaching with the mystical \"intelligent design\" crap.  I think people who push intelligent design in the schools should be shot as traitors.<\/p>\n<p>* Religious organizations should pay taxes, just like every other business.  At best, they should operate as not for profits...if they meet the criteria for those.  Churches shouldn't get any more of a tax break than the Y.<\/p>\n<p>* The government shouldn't be handing out money to religious organizations for their evangelical mission.  Religion should have nothing to do with the allocation of grants.  It shouldn't be fair, balanced according to population, or any of that crap.<\/p>\n<p>Here's the bit that scares me:<\/p>\n<p><em>The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we<br \/>\nlet that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard<br \/>\n. know that the vast majority don't care what they want. It<br \/>\nis time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't<br \/>\nhave to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance;<br \/>\nyou don't have to believe in God or attend services that<br \/>\nhonor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your<br \/>\nright. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our<br \/>\nrights away.  We are fighting back ...<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This doesn't scare you?  \"We're the majority and we're going to do whatever the hell we want, no matter how loud you scream?\"  It scares me, particularly at a football game.<\/p>\n<p>This guy believes that his rights are infringed if the announcer doesn't read his particular prayer. That's a mistake.  The government is overstepping its bounds if it sponsors a religious assembly.<\/p>\n<p>No matter his beliefs on the subject, it is *not* his right to have the government support and endorse his particular faith.  His rights extend to the free practice of his faith and his free and peaceable assembly with like minded people.  <\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, this is a small example and a fairly trivial one.  Seriously, there's enough offensive crap going on at most high school football games that we can probably let this slide while we work through the culture of violent jocks, objectified and over-sexualized cheerleaders and shallow and superficial parents.  Who cares, really?<\/p>\n<p>But if this guy is willing to fight me to stick his religion in my face and waggle it around, because I'm just the puny minority ...  I'm willing to fight back.<\/p>\n<p>I'll scream real loud on the way down.<br \/>\n<\/code><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My brother-in-law forwarded me this:<\/p>\n<p> <span style=\"color:#777\"> . . . &rarr; Read More: <a href=\"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/?p=755\">Religion<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/755"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=755"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/755\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=755"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=755"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/chris.dwan.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=755"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}